Below is the transcript of the online information session for the Public Scholars program, which was held on November 9, 2020. The transcript lacks capitalization and punctuation, but it is otherwise accurate. The text is searchable and corresponds to the closed captions on the video recording. hello and welcome to the free online information session for the public scholars program of the national endowment for the humanities my name is mark silver i'm a program officer in the division of research programs at the neh also on the call is my colleague gwen yates who serves as the program analyst for the public scholars program this schedule uh this session is scheduled to last for about one hour uh from two o'clock until three o'clock eastern time i'm planning to make a presentation that should take 30 minutes or so and then i'll take written questions from you for the remainder of the hour on the next slide i have an overview of the topics that i'm planning to cover i'll start off talking about the goals of the program and its scope i'll explain the eligibility requirements i'll go over some key details of the program including the time commitment that we expect from grant recipients we'll look at the review criteria the application materials that you'll have to submit and the mechanics of submitting your application and then we'll get to your questions you should feel free to type questions into the questions box at any time during the presentation and i'll answer as many as i can at the at the end if we don't get to your question you're welcome to send us an email with that question our address is public scholars at neh.gov and i'll put that address up on the final slide as well my hope is that this session will help you decide whether this program is right for you and that if you do decide it's right for you that by the end of it you'll have a better understanding of what it takes to submit a strong application to the program we will by the way be posting a recording of this session so if you want to refer to that later as you're preparing your application you're welcome to do so the recording will be available on the neh website it may take us several days to prepare it and post it but we we do plan to do that all right let's get started then first i want to talk about the goals of the program our overarching goal is to support the creation of well-researched non-fiction books in the humanities written for the broad public related to that goal we want to encourage writers outside the academic world non-academic writers to deepen their engagement with the humanities by strengthening the research underlying their books we know that deep research takes time and it takes effort and that it's not always possible to put as much research into a book as you you might want to so we want to help solve that that problem we also want to encourage academic writers in the humanities to communicate the significance of their research to the broadest possible range of readers just as it takes time and effort to do good research it also takes time and effort to write effectively for a general audience and if you're a professional scholar it's in some ways easier for you probably to write for other scholars that's probably what you were trained to do so writing for a general audience requires some adjustment and it may require you to find a new voice we want to encourage you to make that adjustment and find that new voice for yourself about the scope of the program we welcome applications in all areas of the humanities regardless of geographic or chronological focus if you look at the list of awards we've made so far in this program and we've made over 140 awards at this point that list is dominated by projects that have an american focus but we don't actually have a particular preference for projects with an american focus we welcome proposals having to do with any geographic area or historical period the books must be written in a readily accessible style and they must frame their topics to have wide appeal this is absolutely crucial in this program so if if you're not interested in devoting energy to those things then this is uh not the right program for you and as the slide says books written primarily for an audience of professional scholars are not suitable so that's just to reiterate the point this slide shows some recent and forthcoming books sponsored by the program about 60 books have either been published or announced for release so far with our sponsorship but here are three examples on the left is the doctor's blackwell how two pioneering sisters brought women to medicine and medicine to women this is by janice nimura who's an independent freelance writer and it's due to be published soon by w.w norton in the middle is music critic aaron cohen's book move on up chicago soul music and black cultural power which was published last year by the university of chicago press and then on the right a book by camilla townsend who teaches at rutgers university called fifth son a new history of the aztecs and that was published last year by oxford university press before i go any further i want to pause for a moment and talk about what we mean by the humanities the founding legislation of the neh lists a number of disciplines that are meant to be encompassed by the term humanities the legislation also makes clear that this is not intended to be an exhaustive list but it does mention these disciplines on the slide history literature and language history and theory of the arts philosophy and ethics archaeology comparative religion jurisprudence and those social sciences employing humanistic methods if you're uncertain about whether your project would fall within the humanities or not we're happy to discuss that question with you so feel free to get in touch and we can try to give you some guidance next eligibility requirements this program is open to all u.s citizens doesn't matter where you are in the world it's also open to foreign nationals who've been living in the u.s for the three years preceding the application deadline which is december 16th currently enrolled students are not eligible to apply and we also have a previous publication requirement in this program you can meet that requirement either with a book published with a commercial or university press and an academic book an academic monograph would be okay the book that you're using to qualify need not have been written for a broad popular audience or you can satisfy our publication requirement under option b here on the slide that is you can present three articles or essays in publications with a large audience on your resume as well no advanced degree is required in order to apply and no institutional affiliation is required either in fact on that point we have a special encouragement in place for independent writers the program encourages applications from writers who are not currently affiliated with a college or a university so maybe you're a full-time biographer or you're a journalist or a magazine writer or an editor maybe you drive a taxi and you work on your writing at night if you have a suitable project we want you to be aware of this program and the support that it could provide you or you may be currently affiliated with a college or university but have only a short-term uh contract and that would also put you in the category of independent writers in in our understanding uh so maybe you're um an adjunct professor you're teaching a writing course from time to time at a college or university we want you to be aware of this program as well uh but none of this is intended to suggest that we don't want to hear from full-time university or college professors professional academics are entirely welcome to apply to the program we absolutely do want to see those applications it's just that our application pool tends to be dominated by professional scholars already and we want to broaden our reach to other kinds of applicants because we know you're out there next slide the project types not supported by this program there are a number of types of projects that we don't support and you you do need to be aware of these you should check the complete list of prohibited project types and activities in section d6 of the notice of funding opportunity on our website the program just to mention some of these prohibited project types does not support fiction including historical fiction or philosophical fiction it doesn't support creative non-fiction so we wouldn't allow a book in which you are inventing dialogue or imagining particular scenes that that may or may not have actually occurred in real life we don't support autobiography or memoir in this program or books for children or young adults we don't support works of graphic fiction or non-fiction and we don't support dissertation revisions either as i said the full list appears in section d6 of the funding notice here are a number of key details regarding the awards that we make we're buying your time essentially with these awards so we're quite strict about these rules the minimum duration is six months of full-time work or the equivalent so you could for example work half-time for 12 months on your project and that would meet the requirement since that's would be the equivalent of six full-time months the maximum duration is 12 months and that's true even if you're working part-time on the project so you you cannot run your calendar longer than 12 months under any circumstances you cannot work less than half time at any point during the award period and you must hold the award continuously as the slide says how much money would you get if you were to receive an award the stipend is five thousand dollars per full-time month so the maximum award is sixty thousand dollars which would be for twelve full-time months we reduce the dollar amount of the award accordingly if you're working part-time or if you're working less than 12 full-time months on your project the application deadline is december 16 2020 and you will hear an answer from us in early august of 2021 so it does take us almost six uh or rather almost nine months about nine months to review your application and give you an answer and so you you need to account for that in your planning if you were to be notified that you've won an award in august of 2021 the earliest possible start date would be september 1st in other words you could start holding the award almost immediately after you got the news the latest possible start date would be one year after that which would be september 1st of 2022 so we give you a 12-month window in which you can start your clock ticking on your grant period uh so as i said as you're planning your project and your schedule uh you need to be well aware of the timeline that i've presented here and uh you need to take that into your into account in your planning typical activities and products in this program we support research in primary and secondary sources that could include interviews it could include field work of some kind we support travel to archives and to other research sites and then also writing and revision of your manuscript the typical products are print books generally published with a trade press or with a university press that has a very strong distribution arm you're permitted to propose online materials intended to supplement a print book but the primary product in that case would still have to be a print book and we also see people producing ebooks and or audio books as part of their projects in this program as well next this slide shows the review criteria for the program every application is reviewed by a panel of external peer reviewers and these criteria on this slide are the criteria that we instruct those evaluators to use in their evaluations so as an applicant you absolutely need to be familiar with these review criteria you need to keep them in mind as you're preparing your application and you should try to write your application to answer these review criteria they are by the way published in the notice of funding opportunity so let me take a moment to go through the review criteria the first one is the appeal and intellectual significance of the proposed book for general read yours this is extremely important it's the number one criterion for a reason it's in many ways the most important criterion and both aspects of it the appeal and also the intellectual significance are important so your topic should be framed in a way to make it engaging and interesting and the writing should carry the reader along without undue effort but the book should also have substance to it the second criterion is the applicant's record of research and experience in interpreting the humanities for general audiences as an applicant you want to think about how to highlight your record in these areas both on your resume and also in your application narrative the third criterion is the quality of the conception definition organization and description of the project and the breadth and depth of the humanities research underlying the project your project should be well defined well organized the book should be based on rigorous research and your application should show that you're aware of the relevant sources and of related books in your area the fourth criterion is the quality of the writing sample and the applicant's clarity of expression the writing sample is extremely important in this program because that's where you're demonstrating for the evaluators that you really can write for a popular audience it's best to submit a draft chapter from your proposed book as the writing sample if you can do that but if that's not possible make sure that the selection really showcases your skill in writing for the general reader that's the most important thing that the evaluators will be looking for in your writing sample the fifth criterion is the feasibility and appropriateness of the proposed plan of work the soundness and probable dissemination plan that is your plan to publish and the likelihood that the applicant will complete the project which need not necessarily occur during the grant period itself in the plan of work you need to present a clear schedule of tasks indicating the amount of time that you'll devote to each one you don't want to leave the evaluators in doubt about what you're going to be doing if you're given a grant we do not ask you to take the covid19 pandemic into account in your work plan if you win an award but your proposed plan is disrupted in some way by the pandemic you can negotiate adjustments with us as needed your application should also address the question of dissemination how are you going to publish the book how will you make sure that it gets noticed you want to think about the press that you're going to publish the book with and in general the bigger the print run that the press is able to promise uh and the stronger their publicity and distribution operation the the better off you'll be it will help your application to have a publication contract at the time you apply but that's certainly not required about half the projects that we funded so far did not have a contract at the time of application the next slide shows application materials the things that we ask you to submit to us in your application package uh first of all let me say that there are page limits here on this list and and you need to be well aware of those page limits and abide by them you you're risking disqualification of your application if you don't abide by those page limits for each component part of your application so what do we ask for first of all a three-page narrative statement explaining your project and you should follow the format that we explain in the no list of funding opportunity which is the the announcement and the the instructions for applying available on our website then we also ask for a one-page plan a one-page bibliography and a thousand character project summary we also require a two-page resume or cv a 20-page writing sample and a publisher's letter if applicable in other words if you have been in discussions with the publisher and if you do have interest from a publisher or if your book is under contract i would certainly recommend that you submit a letter from a representative of the press indicating the level of commitment to your project uh and i see i lost audio for just a moment but i'll pick up where i was if your book is under contract and you've discussed the size of a possible print run with your publisher i'd encourage you to include information about that in the letter as well and also any plans for book tours or other publicity that would be connected with your book you should arrange for two letters of reference those are not actually due until january 25th several weeks after the application deadline you should coach your letter writers to study the evaluation criteria and to address those criteria in their letters as well you should also coach your letter writers to specifically address your proposed project rather than simply talking about previous work that you may have done and then ending with a line to say and i'm sure the proposed project will be just as good as that previous work it's really much more effective to have a letter writer address the specifics of your currently proposed project there are also some additional forms in the application package asking you to identify your letter writers to list the locations where you'll be working during the grant period the last note on this page says no budget is required and that's because as i explained before the dollar amount of the award is based on the number of months that you commit to as your grant period the next slide shows a number of resources for applicants that you should be aware of the single most important one is that notice of funding opportunity which i've referred to a few times and that's available on uh the same web page that you use to register for this online information session the the notice of funding opportunity is about a 20-page document and it contains all the instructions for assembling and formatting your materials as well as instructions for submitting your application to us so if you're not familiar with that document and you think you're interested in the program that would definitely be your next step to read through the notice of funding opportunity we also have available on the website sample application narratives there are seven examples uh at the moment of successful applications posted on the website and you're welcome to study those as you're preparing your own application there's also a list of recently funded projects there and another document with frequently asked questions faqs that you may want to refer to as well all of these things are available at the link on the slide here that's the page where you registered for this online information session and then the last item on this list not to be neglected is advice from neh staff there's the email address you can use to get in touch with us and our phone number as well we can usually get back to you more quickly by email but we are available by phone as well we are not able to comment on draft applications but we can respond to specific questions that you have about your application or about your project uh this next slide covers some of the things you should know about the mechanics of submitting your application to us as your first step you need to register at the website grants.gov which is the portal for virtually all federal grant applications and you'll need to submit your application to us through that website grants.gov once you've registered at grants.gov you must create an individual applicant profile in your account uh that's what i've listed here as the second step on the slide failing to do this is probably the most common mistake that people make with submitting their application and if you don't create an individual applicant profile you're going to see that the red button where it says apply is actually grayed out and you won't be able to click on it and submit your application there are specific instructions for creating an individual applicant profile on page 13 of the notice of funding opportunity third point you want to allow several days to submit your application in case there's some technical problem or you run into a hurdle of some kind with submitting through grants.gov so especially if you're doing this for the first time it can be a little bit cumbersome so allow some extra time before the december 16th deadline to handle those things as as they arise if they do then the last point on this slide is that there is a help desk run by grants.gov it's available 24 hours a day seven days a week and the phone number at that help desk is on the slide here it's 1-800-518-4726 where you can email them at support at grants.gov and the people at the help desk there can help you with technical problems much better than we here at neh can so i encourage you to call the help desk at grants.gov if you're having a problem using grants.gov or submitting your application all right so that's the presentation that i've prepared and uh the last slide i have uh shows our contact information again as promised um i think some of you have perhaps been submitting questions along the way or if you have a question that you'd like to submit now go ahead and do that using the questions box that you should see on your screen and i'll begin taking a look here and seeing what we've got there are a lot of people in the audience so i doubt i'll be able to get to all the questions but if i don't get to your particular question feel free again to contact us by email with that question after we're through here today okay it'll take me just a moment to look at the questions that have come in here [Music] we've got a question about eligibility are u.s citizens residing abroad eligible and the answer is yes they are um can someone write a letter of recommendation for me if they're also applying for this fellowship um yes we do in fact allow that or we don't have a rule against that um so as long as you both understand what the situation is that is acceptable to us um a question about whether the presentation slides will be shared i'm planning to post a recording of this session um i probably can also post the slides themselves it will take us perhaps as long as a week to post the recording and and the slides though and they'll be available on the same page where you registered for this information session uh yeah okay so here's a question [Music] someone says the timeline is a bit confusing is it true that we only notify you in august 2021 uh when the earliest uh start date is september uh and that may be just a week or so after you get the notification and yes that is the case and we understand that you may well need to give notice to your university if you have teaching obligations before you start holding the award if you know that you need more lead time then what you should do is plan to start a year from the time that you receive that notification we allow you a 12-month window in which to start your start holding your grant so um in in for some people there may be an impossibly short turnaround time between the time you get the no the news from us and the start of the semester in september um so if you realize that that's going to be the case you need to be looking forward in time to um to the following year or perhaps six months into the future to the start of the following semester that could potentially be workable as well okay let's see um so here's someone who says in order to make historical descriptions more appealing to a popular audience i'd like to include some narrative descriptions of scenes or characters that are closely based on historical sources which would be heavily cited is that okay um you're probably skating on thin ice there um it would depend on exactly how you're doing it and how much buttress your account so it's a little bit hard to render a judgment without seeing words on a page but i would just say you need to be very careful that you're providing adequate documentation and that you don't leave yourself open to the accusation that you're in inventing things that were not necessarily happening as you present them here's a question someone says are business-oriented books designed for a broad audience allowable in the program so a book aimed at someone working for a business or starting a business um my uh again it's a little bit difficult to see with uh to say without seeing more specifics but um that doesn't sound like a promising avenue to pursue uh we have among the list of prohibited project types how-to books uh so you you can't propose a book explaining how to do something such as how to start a business um so uh that uh if that was your question you might want to get in touch with us to discuss uh specifics of of your idea um here's a question about that phrase employing humanistic methods which appears in the list of disciplines supported by the neh there was a reference in other words to those social sciences employing humanistic methods i usually gloss that as using qualitative methods rather than quantitative methods so um if you're doing heavy statistical analysis that's central to the argument that you're making then you're shading into quantitative methods which may not be considered humanistic under our understanding so if you have concerns about that i'll go back to what i said originally when i had that slide up which is uh you should feel free to get in touch with us and discuss the specifics of your project and whether it would fall within the humanities or not we're happy to have that conversation with you here's a question about whether we will review an application package before final submission uh the answer is no we are not able to read drafts in this program we are able to answer specific questions that you have and we could react to a very short paragraph say five sentences of description of your project and let you know whether there might be pitfalls that you should keep an eye out for but unfortunately we're not able to review drafts uh in this program uh here's a question about whether you need to have a book contract to apply you do not need to have a book contract to apply one of the evaluation criteria is the strength of the dissemination plan so having a book contract will likely help your case but it's certainly not required and uh we've about half the grants that we've given in the program have been to people who did not have a contract at the time they applied here's a question about self-publishing will we consider books that will be self-published um we would certainly consider books that would be self-published and your published publication plan will be evaluated uh under that criterion of um the the soundness of the dissemination plan so you would need to convince the evaluators that you're really going to be able to give the book very wide distribution um that you'd be able to compete with commercially with a book published by a trade press or by university presses and um you would also need to convince the evaluators and this could be somewhat difficult that you're going to be somehow matching the editorial review process that those presses would subject a book to as well um so is there some equivalent to a peer review process or an editing and accepting process that you could simulate for yourself and your manuscript even though you're planning to self-publish so you may run into a bit of a skepticism about whether your book would meet the standards that would be required by a trade press or a university press but um it you may be able to make that case and depending on the strength of your application materials it might be possible to persuade the evaluators just looking at the other questions here um here's a question about our publication requirement the question is with three articles that are published in national magazines be considered as meeting the eligibility threshold if they're general interest publications and there have national distribution then yes certainly no question but they need to be general interest publications they should be publications that are not attracting their readers because those people have a professional interest in the material um here's a question about again about our publication requirement and the question is if a book is under contract with a university press but not yet released would this be countable as one of the three required publications unfortunately it would not be we have uh the the guidelines do state that you cannot use a book that's not been published yet at the application deadline to meet that publication requirement um then we have uh another question on that same on the eligibility requirement um is a co-authored publication acceptable no we don't accept co-authored publications for that our writings published in newspapers uh acceptable yes a newspaper would be considered [Music] a general audience or a general interest publication um depending on how why the distribution of the newspaper is there might be some question about whether you're reaching a large audience or not but um uh that um would be worth pursuing with us you can ask about uh whether particular publications that you have on your record would qualify you or not um here's someone asking would we consider a book that's a collection of interviews and unfortunately the answer here again is no uh that's one of the prohibited project types that's listed in that section d6 of our notice of funding opportunity here's a question about terms grant periods is there an advantage to applying for less than 12 months of support is the question the answer is no you will not be improving your chances of winning an award if you ask for less than 12 months we're not um looking for bargains in in that sense so you should apply for a grant term that matches your needs uh and then justify the request in your application and in the work plan where you lay out what you're going to be doing during your grant term um here's someone asking whether there's a specific window of submission dates for proposals uh you can start you can apply now you can submit your application to us um anytime up until the december 16th deadline um so there there's no specific window uh or i should say the window is already open and you're welcome to submit applications starting now and actually starting from previous to now um here's someone asking what is a typical first printing for a book that wins funding for example 5000 copies this question is a little bit difficult to answer because we we were i mean i can answer it but i should say that we don't have hard and fast rules about a minimum print run that's required in order to to win an award and our evaluators are really looking at the entire package that you present to us and the dissemination plan is one element of it but that said um something like 5 000 copies uh or more would be typical for uh books that are under contract at the time of application and uh that um give us a projected number for a print run we have funded projects that are uh where a print run of fewer than 5 000 copies is planned so as i said there's no hard and fast cut off there and we do see applications from people who are able to promise print runs much larger than 5 000 copies that is 25 050 000 copies um but again that's really just one factor among the collection of factors that are considered under those evaluation criteria um so here's a question about titles and the question is can or should the book title be identical to the project title and um we do have some guidance in our faq document about how to title your project that's in the frequently asked questions document which is posted on the program resource page so i would take a look at the instructions we have there um the project title and the book title need not be identical um we have a preference in the program for project titles that are relatively straightforward and that convey the maximum information possible about the content of the project and we do in fact reserve the right to change project titles if they receive funding to in order to make sure that the maximum information about the content of the project is conveyed by the title um so i would put some thought into your title i would try to make it um appealing but it need not be the same as your book title that you're planning to use that if you've consulted with a publisher about that already if you do give the the the application uh a different title from your book i would clarify that in the application so that the evaluators aren't confused and think that you're somehow referring to two different um two different projects or two different books um here's someone asking does the book need to be finished within a year the answer is no you do not need to finish the book during the grant period or during any particular time frame so you're more than welcome to carve out a particular piece of the project that you want to complete with neh support and then to finish the rest of the project later if that's your plan you should explain it in the application explain what work you're planning to do after the grant period how you imagine having the time to uh to do that and you should also probably not project a completion date that's very far into the future because that might lessen the reviewers confidence that you're actually going to finish the project and that is one of the evaluation criteria that is the likelihood of completion of the project not necessarily during the grant period is one of the things that our evaluators will look at so i i wouldn't say i'm going to have this book finished to six years from now or something like that if it's a year or two years or perhaps three years that you're projecting into the future i think that would be fine someone is asking whether travel expenses are covered by these awards the answer is yes they could conceivably be covered you're not presenting a budget when you apply that is you're not listing particular expenses that you plan to um meet with neh support we're simply supporting the project in whatever way you need to have it supported here's a question about whether we can give advice on letters of recommendation uh and who should write them advice about who should write letters of recommendation uh and whether there's a recommended number of reference letters we ask for two reference letters and you should not try to submit more than two because we we won't allow you to do that um i would recommend that you choose people who uh know your work and who will be able to take some time with your application and with their letter to address those evaluation criteria in their in their letter with some degree of specificity as i said the the best letters really show a high level of engagement with the proposed project and they're able to speak in specific terms about the significance of the project for general readers so you should look for somebody who is has some some degree of authority in the area that you're planning to enter with your book you should think about possibly also using your letter writers to balance out your own strengths or weaknesses um so for example if you're a journalist and you move primarily in journalistic circles i would think about looking to the academic world for at least one of your recommenders and if you're an academic i would think about trying to choose at least one recommender who has experience writing for a broad popular audience now that person could be another academic as well there are certainly academics who've been very successful in reaching a popular popular audience with their books and you might look to such a person to strike that note in your application file that to help add another voice that has authority in judging the appeal of a book for a popular audience to say yes this proposed book does in fact um have the potential to appeal to a broad readership um here's a question about your about previous record of research and experience interpreting the humanities for a general audience uh that was that's one of our review criteria and this person is asking uh are new scholars or writers for whom would this would be the first project of the kind encouraged or should they wait a while before submitting an application i would encourage you to think about developing your your portfolio i'm not sure i would encourage you to just wait to apply though um because putting in an application can be part of the project development and you can get the feedback from our reviewers after the competition is over which could help you most successful applicants do have some [Music] elements in their cv or their resume that show ability to interpret the humanities or to speak to a general audience but that doesn't have to have been a previous book that reached a popular audience so perhaps you have written some op-eds or you've given um oral presentations you've spoken before general audience groups at the local library or something like that i would certainly highlight that in the resume and if you've if you have experiences of those kinds or perhaps being interviewed on on a radio program um those things could potentially uh get you over the bar in terms of previous experience even if you've not written a full-length book for a popular audience in the past here's a question about writing samples would it be better to submit a piece of writing that demonstrates ability to reach a popular audience even if that's not closely related to the proposed project i would say yes i would choose the sample that shows your ability to write for a popular audience in preference to a sample that does not do that but is more closely related to the project because as i said the the single most important box that you have to check with your writing sample is ability to write for a popular audience in an engaging way um can the writing sample be an excerpt from an already published work yes it certainly can be already published that's fine you need to make sure you're observing our page limit though we have a 20 page limit for the writing sample and that's 20 pages of double spaced typescript so you may have to do a little bit of a calculation there to figure out the correct number of pages from your previously published work to present with your application uh here's someone asking whether it's acceptable to receive funding from other sources in addition to any age the answer is yes that is perfectly acceptable to us you're welcome to combine an nih award with funding from other sources um here's someone saying in which document do you include the schedule of tasks and can this be an addendum we have a specific attachment uh when you look at our instructions this will be clear it's called the work plan and that's where you should set forth your your plan of work uh for the grant period uh including the schedule if tasks um another question about the writing sample can it be 20 pages without endnotes or with endnotes it must not exceed 20 pages so if you include notes they must fit within that 20 page limit um someone asking whether we plan to offer this grant program again in the future the answer is yes we do plan to continue offering this program annually for the foreseeable future here's someone saying that my book has intentionally short chapters which run fewer than 20 pages would it be all right to include part of another chapter with an explanation to introduce it to bring the page count closer to 20 pages and the answer is yes you you certainly could submit more than one chapter of the book as your writing sample if you have short chapters and you're also welcome to include a brief note with your writing sample setting the context for it explaining what piece of the project you're presenting to us um someone asking whether one of the letters of recommendation can come from the publisher um we don't have a a rule against that but i would not recommend that you do that um because your publisher has some stake in the outcome of this uh in a way that might throw some question on to the on to the recommendations so i i would not recommend that you submit a letter of recommendation from your publisher um here's someone saying can you apply for a grant covering a period of time between 6 and 12 months such as 9 months the answer is yes you're welcome to submit a proposal for six months of funding seven months of funding eight months of funding anywhere up to 12 months of funding here's a question from someone who is a philosopher asking um will the neh consider a proposal that focuses less on research of primary sources and more on interpretation and reflection even some speculation and the answer is yes we would consider such an application we understand that different disciplines have different cultures and different requirements and that they would be engaging with primary sources perhaps to different extents so i would recommend that you explain that in your application and make make the argument about why you require any age support and yes an application of that sword in the field of philosophy would indeed be acceptable i'm looking at my clock here it's now 3 p.m uh here on the east coast in the u.s and so i'm going to stop there um there are dozens and dozens of other questions here that i'm afraid i have not gotten to but as i said previously you should feel free to send your question by email to us at public scholars at neh.gov we'll be happy to try and get an answer to you thank you all for your interest in the nih public scholars program and for taking the time today to to join us for this session and good luck with your applications goodbye you